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EPA Whistle-Blower - Gulf dispersants a fraud

youtube - MSNBC - video -- According to Hugh Kaufman, the public just can’t handle the truth when it comes to the poisoning of the Gulf Coast. Kaufman, who played a major role in exposing the EPA cover up of the air quality at ground zero, stated that dispersants mixed with oil in the water atomize the oil and prevent it from coming from the surface where it can be skimmed instead it is in small particles.

Dispersants do damage by causing bleeding from orifices in both sea mammals & humans. When the atomized oil and dispersant gets into the bloodstream it atomizes your cells, and that is why there is hemorrhaging.

Now we have hundreds of millions of gallons of oil mixed with 2 million gallons of dispersant spread out over thousands of miles. We have to be very careful of the seafood which we have now poisoned.

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Submitted Jul 29, 2010 By: MidNJ

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:10,776 Points:631,400 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:54:49 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse it was known (perhaps not widely) that the dispersant used was NOT approved in the US but only by France for the very reason - it's high toxicity.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:10,776 Points:631,400 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 31, 2010 1:49:59 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse martinman: agree on The Big Pretender's lack of safety concern and laissez-faire attitude, but please remember, BP no longer stands for British Petroleum. They are 39% American owned, plus, they did officially change their name back in the late 80s / early 90s.
UseLessGasFolks All-Star Author Iowa Posts:584 Points:356,660 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 7:42:26 AM Ignore UseLessGasFolks Report Abuse Amazing info. How quickly we forget.
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:8,425 Points:1,173,440 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 30, 2010 3:30:05 AM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse Why does his amaze anyone? Not only does this continue to re-emphasize British Petroleum's long-term pattern of sherking safety and corporate responsibility, as well as a consistent pattern of deceiving the fedreal government and general public throughout the ENTIRE course of events of this massive leak, IT IS THE SAME THING THAT BRITISH PETROLEUM DID FOLLOWING THE EXXON-VALDEZ SPILL. British Petroleum was placed in charge of the Exxon-Valdez spill clean-up. And just like it has done in this incident, British Petroleum relied on heavy use of Corexit to disperse the crude oil where it would remain below the surface. They then went back and "surface" cleaned the area, and made declaration in/to the press about how they were having problems finding more oil to recover. [Edited by: Martinman at 7/30/2010 9:33:02 AM EST]
DonKofAK All-Star Author Anchorage Posts:507 Points:302,390 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 10:31:57 PM Ignore DonKofAK Report Abuse Too bad that all the people who know how to run the country are busy driving taxicabs and cutting hair. ~George Burns
dacofa All-Star Author Nevada Posts:778 Points:189,000 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 9:54:38 PM Ignore dacofa Report Abuse Just give it a few decades to really hit the systems.
djtdi Champion Author San Jose Posts:1,236 Points:295,255 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 7:20:04 PM Ignore djtdi Report Abuse Of course we will be discovering damages caused by toxins for years to come.
six_ball_man Champion Author Rochester Posts:3,787 Points:492,925 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:38:16 PM Ignore six_ball_man Report Abuse If you want to be perfectly accurate Cobra, the news is all of 100 days old. That is when BP began poisoning our Gulf of Mexico with their vile spew. I won't eat a piece of seafood from there for at least 30 years. Good luck to the oil apologists!
CruisinLinda Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:6,448 Points:1,291,200 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:31:41 PM Ignore CruisinLinda Report Abuse It's not easy being a whistleblower because people don't really want the truth. We can't handle it. What if you kneev Gulf seafood were poison? Would you stop eating it? Or would you sate your appetite and forget or deny? Then in a decade or two you would come down with a neurolgic condition because of the heavy metals like mercury, arsenic and lead or cancer from the hydrocarbons like benzene and toulene and wonder how you got sick.
WhiteTreeIndian Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,098 Points:210,420 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:28:28 PM Ignore WhiteTreeIndian Report Abuse All because some greedy toxin sales people wanted to make a buck selling their poisonous snake oil.
CobraLeader Champion Author New Jersey Posts:248,232 Points:1,135,700 Joined:Apr 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:27:09 PM Ignore CobraLeader Report Abuse ... Yesterday's news article. ...
marvin42 Rookie Author Salt Lake City Posts:64 Points:208,555 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:25:15 PM Ignore marvin42 Report Abuse loneguy: If Obama had not ....blah blah...Well done socialist Obama! But of course you are so sure that someone else would have handled it well. When will the morons of this country understand the truth: your politicians don't give a f*** about you - as long as they get bankrolled by the corporations.
jay4 Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:5,792 Points:1,326,080 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:23:05 PM Ignore jay4 Report Abuse What's next, BP?
LoneGuy Champion Author Lansing Posts:3,633 Points:1,359,175 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:21:33 PM Ignore LoneGuy Report Abuse If Obama had not wanted his agenda of cap and trade this would not have gone on as long as it has. He would have suspended the Jones act and allowed countries like Holand and Denmark help who have experience with dikes. He could have allowed those in the gulf to build dikes to protect their coastlines. The protection of the coastlines is the federal government's responsibility. How about the skimmers that were staged stratigically around the country that never moved to the aid of the gulf because maybe a crisis might happen at these strategic sites. Meanwhile the area what was spoiled had few skimmers. One area got gear on their own initiative and while the oil had not arrived yet the gvt took the skimmers they had paid for and when the oil arrived that community was left without. Well done socialist Obama!
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:1,527 Points:167,030 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:20:01 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse If that is true, and I believe it is, stay away from anything caught in the Gulf.
hotrod_brother Champion Author Tampa Posts:7,829 Points:1,364,255 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:19:31 PM Ignore hotrod_brother Report Abuse Like I would believe anything that MSNBC says. Lol...
TheSicilian Veteran Author Jacksonville Posts:444 Points:492,660 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:19:24 PM Ignore TheSicilian Report Abuse the public dosent get the truth so how can they handle it
marvin42 Rookie Author Salt Lake City Posts:64 Points:208,555 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:18:59 PM Ignore marvin42 Report Abuse davmoo: You can have the oil remain a gooey mess in the water. Or you can have the dispersants. Pick one. Or you can spend a lot of money and skim off every last drop. Now pick one. Spending money can't be that hard for a nation that spends over a trillion dollars on useless wars without blinking an eye, right? [Edited by: marvin42 at 7/30/2010 12:20:48 AM EST]
marvin42 Rookie Author Salt Lake City Posts:64 Points:208,555 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:17:37 PM Ignore marvin42 Report Abuse altima2008: This whole mess is BP will get off the hook somehow and us taxpayers will get screwed under nobamas watch! But if a Repub had been President he would have made sure that BP paid every last penny for this mess. Yeah, right.... You want to blame someone for letting corporations off the hook? Blame all politicians and the system that lets companies buy them. And get off your comfy couch and make your voice heard to reform the system. By sitting there and blaming "Nobama" you are just a pompous hypocrite.
JettaKnight Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,045 Points:1,305,565 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:15:11 PM Ignore JettaKnight Report Abuse MidNJ New Jersey "Gasoholic, Here is a list of chemicals that are in dispersants. ====================== Here is a list of chemicals used in detergents that comes from the EPA and CDC. Try washing your hair and clothes in this concoction of chemicals for a week and then tell us all how you feel (if you are able to). Chemicals found in dispersants include * 1,2-Propanediol * Ethanol, 2-butoxy-* * Butanedioic acid, 2-sulfo-, 1,4-bis(2-ethylhexyl) ester, sodium salt (1:1) * Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate * Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs * Sorbitan, tri-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs * 2-Propanol, 1-(2-butoxy-1-methylethoxy) * Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light *Note: This chemical (Ethanol, 2-butoxy-) is not included in Corexit 9500. For more information about chemicals found in dispersants: http://www.epa.gov/bpspill/dispersants.html"
davmoo Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,091 Points:1,987,765 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:11:49 PM Ignore davmoo Report Abuse You can have the oil remain a gooey mess in the water. Or you can have the dispersants. Pick one.
Gary65 Champion Author Toronto Posts:1,497 Points:466,725 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:11:07 PM Ignore Gary65 Report Abuse Do we ever really know what the truth is?
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:5,534 Points:888,770 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:06:43 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse More propaganda. Just tell the truth.
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,942 Points:635,600 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 6:02:39 PM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse We know that when the oil is dispersed in small particles microbial degradation is accelerated. That part is good. What we don’t know is what happens to the dispersant chemicals themselves. Do they degrade over time and what are the end products? Exactly what is Corexit anyway? I’ve heard no discussion of these aspects.
Bigwaynef Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,952 Points:1,121,995 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:38:01 PM Ignore Bigwaynef Report Abuse Pay...oh heck yeah, we'll pay...big time!
14of45SSR Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:2,112 Points:474,280 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:34:14 PM Ignore 14of45SSR Report Abuse Either way you print it...it isn't good! This only adds to the death of the ocean & the animals & plants in it!
cudatim Champion Author San Antonio Posts:1,807 Points:784,900 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:32:39 PM Ignore cudatim Report Abuse Boy, that just warms the cockles of my heart.
Bigmace Veteran Author New York Posts:306 Points:21,045 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:30:20 PM Ignore Bigmace Report Abuse They need more of the oil eating microbes put into the water to get rid of the atomized oil.
gj35 Rookie Author San Diego Posts:94 Points:117,260 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:18:49 PM Ignore gj35 Report Abuse This all makes me happy that I'm on the west coast.
divebomber Champion Author Nebraska Posts:1,229 Points:844,980 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:07:11 PM Ignore divebomber Report Abuse Leave it to the gov't to make the situation worse!
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:7,989 Points:1,396,990 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:07:00 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse sounds more like an anne rice novel to me ...............
Lukus Champion Author Halifax Posts:3,499 Points:711,290 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 5:04:10 PM Ignore Lukus Report Abuse More questions for BP.
NavyEOD Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:5,154 Points:1,061,565 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:57:37 PM Ignore NavyEOD Report Abuse More bad news.
altima2008 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:3,249 Points:769,060 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:56:44 PM Ignore altima2008 Report Abuse This whole mess is BP will get off the hook somehow and us taxpayers will get screwed under nobamas watch! [Edited by: altima2008 at 7/29/2010 10:57:33 PM EST]
tgolf All-Star Author Washington Posts:737 Points:156,865 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:54:13 PM Ignore tgolf Report Abuse I've said from the start it will be a long time before I eat any seafood from the gulf...
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:3,795 Points:1,329,550 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:53:45 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse Any chemicals used to disperse oil (or used in anything else) will have undesirable secondary effects on people, animals and the environment.
paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:4,228 Points:466,955 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:42:51 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse The hurricane helped to dispurse the oil although there is still a lot to do yet to get things back to normal as it can get.
TFowler513 Champion Author Memphis Posts:2,372 Points:588,560 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:37:56 PM Ignore TFowler513 Report Abuse Just another reason why we need to pursue alternative energy solutions.
TheSnowstorm Champion Author Montreal Posts:4,458 Points:1,004,655 Joined:June 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:36:42 PM Ignore TheSnowstorm Report Abuse It has become just about impossible to determine where the truth ends and the lies begin...
Jeeputtputt All-Star Author Cincinnati Posts:710 Points:181,720 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:34:40 PM Ignore Jeeputtputt Report Abuse Crap, there goes the oyster diet!
Hugo40 Champion Author Kentucky Posts:2,748 Points:651,985 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:28:39 PM Ignore Hugo40 Report Abuse It takes one fraud to know another.
DblChek Rookie Author San Antonio Posts:65 Points:121,925 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:27:13 PM Ignore DblChek Report Abuse MSNBC and a ton of salt
traindude Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:3,330 Points:784,175 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:23:45 PM Ignore traindude Report Abuse what ever happend to all those endangered turtles they were burning?
BKool Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,020 Points:1,438,945 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:19:50 PM Ignore BKool Report Abuse The EPA and this jerk are frauds.
jb107 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,699 Points:1,647,015 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:19:07 PM Ignore jb107 Report Abuse It is going to take a while to figure out who is telling the truth and who is not.
nojsts Champion Author St. Louis Posts:14,043 Points:2,828,980 Joined:May 2002	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:18:09 PM Ignore nojsts Report Abuse BP will do whatever they can to get out of the mess they created. The do not cazre what they do to the environment and government allowes them to do whatever they want.
MRED3 Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:2,255 Points:442,045 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:17:13 PM Ignore MRED3 Report Abuse Our very own Federal Government knows more than they will ever let on about all this mess with BP and all these other spills going on. Obama get your oil czar right on this immediately!!!
subnuke Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,793 Points:564,875 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:16:46 PM Ignore subnuke Report Abuse Pull the plug on MSNBC and their idiots
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:7,678 Points:619,180 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:13:12 PM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse Good lord get over it. The public is well ahead of the green teams. We have moved on to the next issue already. People are back to swiming on the beaches, fishing, boating, etc. LET IT GO! Typical green whackos needing something to whine about. What more can we expect from MSNBC.
SUPERQUACK Champion Author Sacramento Posts:1,467 Points:986,025 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jul 29, 2010 4:09:25 PM Ignore SUPERQUACK Report Abuse WELL LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS NOW , IF THAT IS TRUE ...